Post by badassbassplaya on May 28, 2007 23:14:00 GMT -5
ok first of all im sorry if i offend anyone in this rant but i need to get off a little steam. what exactly is it thats so great about drinking? i mean i drink on the rare occasion and only light stuff. but ever since some people have recently turned 19 they think that it is now cool to go out to the bar every weekend and get stinking drunk, thats right stinking drunk, not a little buzzed or anything but down right retarded drunk. i mean the good thing about under aged drinking is you learn the concequenses of alcohol while you can still be punished for it. why is it that people who have, from ive heard, against drinking their whole lives suddenly feel like they need to start drinking , does it make up for them not being cool enough to do it high school or are they just so desperate to fit into society that they have to become the part of it that is most looked down upon. well im running short of time so i have one final thought, show a little self disapline and start being responsible enough to run your life properly.
Friendship is like peeing on yourself: everyone can see it, but only you get the warm feeling that it brings. cara buchedd
Post by DOOM Anomaly on May 29, 2007 1:57:22 GMT -5
I've never seen the point of drinking alcohol. I mean, I'm stupid enough as it is and anyone is willing to vouch for that, I'm sure.
I've only had some from being little. The taste isn't that fantastic. I'd rather have water, or milk, or iced tea, or a DBG over it in terms of taste. Some people may mistake the urge to get anything to drink for the urge to have alcohol. If I hear somebody say they enjoy alcohol for the taste I can hardly bring myself to believe that.
Some people may just go to places because of it. Well that's silly. There is no point in going to a place you wouldn't otherwise enjoy if there wasn't a drink to hinder your perception or just make you or other people act differently. It the drink itself is what's going to make things "worth going" then there is no reason to go.
People drink it because of its changing effect on people. Well that's even worse. You don't need a drink to act stupid. Granted some acts of stupidity cannot come so naturally otherwise without the grant of the drink, but the price isn't really worth the grief. Acting stupid doesn't take a few hours to relieve itself from your system, and is something you have control over in the least. Which debatably may be the deciding factor in why drinking is considered by some to be better in the topic.
Some use it to forget things or deal with problems. That's silly. You'll never forget things and dumping the elixir of stupid down your throat isn't solving anything fast.
I'm guessing that some people just go out when they turn 19 because it's an newly opened option to them that was forbidden before. For some people it is something that sticks and becomes a habit, may not ride so well with others and so they may just drop it after one go.
In some cases it could just be a phase. Or some people are just naturally attracted to stupidity. Looking at the amount of people who drink so excessively, a lot are, actually. Incidentally, though, it seems to do wonders for socializing. Kinda sorta. That could be a motive under any age.
From what I've found, it's rare to find anyone to actually like alcohol for alcohol. They only use it for something.
--This has been yet another senseless post By: DOOM Anomaly--
Take a look at all the people who just turned 19 and started drinking. What do they all have in common? If you answered they are all still free-loading off their parents you are absolutly right!
Once they get out in the real world and have to pay their way through life they will not be able to piss away $200 on a night of drinking, sounds expencive but I've seen it done.
It's obvious lots of people use drinking to solve their problems, but if you take a look at one example you will notice that it causes more than it solves.
Subject 1: Relationship now failing Parent's angry and yelling at them all the time Poor job performance No money Losing all their friends
True example... take a guess who that is.
As for me, I can't say I won't drink, but I certainly wouldn't change as much as they do, I already promised some of my younger friends, who are pisses at these people, that I would never turn my back on them simply because I can now go out and drink... And I know I can keep that promise because I hate big crowds, expecially drunk crowds.
Post by badassbassplaya on May 29, 2007 20:00:26 GMT -5
it does actually astonish me how much things have changed, i mean i understand that it may be hard to avoid it if you are being pressured by people around you but these are people who, from how ive always known them, never let themselves be pressured by others. and i could understand doing it for the taste but as doomanomaly has already stated it tastes like week old piss. i can drink coolers and stuff but thats only because they have little alcohol and taste like pop. and when you see these people all together its not anything new, they still do all the same things; sit around and bad talk certain people, listen to music, etc.. and the big kicker is that they usually use alcohol to get a little action from each other, even though they claim not to be going nout which in reality just makes them huge whores. but what really feels like a kick in the shorts is how they only hang out with drinkers and totally exclude everyone else. weve all known each other for years and been friends and gone camping and all that stuff, how can you just give that all up for two days a week of drinking. if you really like doing that then i guess thats your decision but you dont have to be a retard about it , how bad do things have to get before you realize you have a problem
Friendship is like peeing on yourself: everyone can see it, but only you get the warm feeling that it brings. cara buchedd
Post by MrMeowMeow on May 29, 2007 22:09:12 GMT -5
Oh boy. This thread is looking fairly one-sided, so I guess I'll weigh in. I normally don't bother to share my thoughts about this shit, but I have to do a 7 minute speech on Friday regarding this subject, so I've been thinking about it. I guess this will serve as practice for what I'll say.
*ahem*
I drank my first beer in like, Grade 9 (actually, it was half a beer). It was some room-temperature Molson Canadian shit. It was probably the worst tasting thing I've ever drank. I can't stand beer now, every type I've tasted is terrible.
I definitely don't drink for the taste. Hard liquors - like vodka, tequila, whiskey and rum - all taste like shit. Well. If you get some nice, expensive stuff, it can be pretty decent. I had this one drink that tasted exactly like cinnamon hearts - it was amazing. It's all about masking the alcohol taste. I've filtered vodka, using a Brita filter. I've chased with a whole ton of different liquids. Now I just drink these ridiculous 2 Liter bottles of wine cooler, that are 7% alcohol, and cost about 8 dollars. It's such a girly thing to drink, but I don't give a fuck. It just tastes like bad soda.
I can't comprehend spending $200 to get drunk. Sure you buy shit for other people, and that's cool. But with 8 bucks, I can get enough alcohol for me and enough to share with others.
For me, drinking is definitely a social thing. I've never gotten drunk by myself. In the summer last year, I would show up to my friend's house and he would announce, "We're getting drunk tonight!". So that's what we'd do. Alcohol makes people more sociable. Unless you go into it with a shitty mindset; "My girl left me, I got laid off, fuck. Let's drink."
But it's not like alcohol is the reason for getting together. It's all about getting a sweet group of people, and with those people you would have fun in a sober state of mind, but maybe some people just feel like drinking. I've met a lot of interesting people from getting drunk with them.
I'll probably get some shit for this - but I think you don't fully know someone until you've seen them drunk. But that's with a lot of things. You don't know someone fully until you've seen them when they're happy, sad, etc. Being drunk is just another mental state, I guess. And when you get stinking drunk - that's right, stinking drunk - you get to see a different side of your buddies who decide to take care of you.
I've thrown up twice from drinking. Once in the summer of 06, and once last weekend. That night in the summer I don't know what the fuck happened. I didn't drink very much, but I was absolutely demolished. I don't remember half the night. I spent like, 3 hours, puking out my guts on some stairs. I hit my head on a barbecue at one point, and I could not walk. Then this one kid who I didn't know very well, and he was sober, came and hung out with me while I threw up. He kept my mind off my being sick, and got me to sing along to songs I didn't know. I have tons of respect for that dude now. If he ever gets sick, I'll be there by his side, for sure. My friend had to call his mom to come pick us up, and I had thrown up all over myself, so they gave me fresh clothes and shit. It was awesome.
Then last weekend, I was in a celebratory mood, and was with a bunch of people, and was meeting up with a bunch more. About 1/4 of my 2 liter was gone from drinking and sharing. We got to the beach, and I was like, "Fuck it! I'm getting this party started!" so I downed the rest of the bottle basically to myself. So I went from being kinda buzzed to holyfuckingdrunkass. There was no in-between. One girl was telling me "Oh my god, Alex! I've never seen you this drunk!". Hahah. I eventually had to tell someone to call over one of my friends because I didn't feel too well, and I ended up throwing up on the beach. Luckily, I had my friends there to take care of me - so I was very grateful.
When dumb shit like that happens, I take it in stride, and try to learn from it. But when you're drinking, you simply have to accept that you're going to say/think/do really dumb shit. And yeah, you don't have to be drunk to be stupid - but when you're drunk, things just have a way of getting extra stupid and hilarious. With the bad times, the good times go hand in hand. I've had a lot of fucking sweet times when drinking.
But it's not like I don't know how to have fun when sober. It kind of irks me when people have an elitist attitude about their non-drinking ways. I heard some kid essentially telling another boy, "If you can't have fun sober, you don't deserve to have fun!". Lame.
A lot of people drink to escape their problems, and that's fucking stupid as hell. There's been plenty of times where I've said no to getting drunk because I wasn't in the proper mindset. One of my friends had broken up with his girlfriend, and was kind of drunk, so he decided that because he was sad, it was an awesome idea to get even more drunk. He ended up throwing up all over the place. I know another kid who has to have a drink in the morning before heading off to school. Functioning alcoholic.
As for turning 19 and going to bars, I'm pretty sketchy about that. I don't doubt that I'll end up at a bar or two when my birthday rolls around, but I don't know. I would probably just drink before-hand. Fuck paying at bars. People go there to socialize, I guess, but do I really want to be socializing with those cats? I don't think the bar scene is my thing. Turning 19 and then turning your back on other people is pretty wack, though.
*phew*
That was like writing a book. Feel free to ask me anything/attack my viewpoints/bake me cookies.
Post by DOOM Anomaly on May 30, 2007 5:08:05 GMT -5
mrmeowmeow said:
Oh boy. This thread is looking fairly one-sided, so I guess I'll weigh in. I normally don't bother to share my thoughts about this shit, but I have to do a 7 minute speech on Friday regarding this subject, so I've been thinking about it. I guess this will serve as practice for what I'll say.
Running for prez now that he's kidnapped?
mrmeowmeow said:
It's such a girly thing to drink, but I don't give a fuck.
It could be worse, it could be a tranny thing to drink.
mrmeowmeow said:
For me, drinking is definitely a social thing. I've never gotten drunk by myself. In the summer last year, I would show up to my friend's house and he would announce, "We're getting drunk tonight!". So that's what we'd do. Alcohol makes people more sociable. Unless you go into it with a shitty mindset; "My girl left me, I got laid off, fuck. Let's drink."
But it's not like alcohol is the reason for getting together. It's all about getting a sweet group of people, and with those people you would have fun in a sober state of mind, but maybe some people just feel like drinking. I've met a lot of interesting people from getting drunk with them.
I've noticed that it plays largely as a social catalyst. But for some I wonder if it is the only reason people bear each other. That's odd.
It seems that even the most unpredictable of people can be social with groups of others, just because they drink. It's like there is some sort of hidden advertisement that says "drink and everyone will invite you to parties."
While I get the whole it being fun or others being interesting, what I don't understand is just going somewhere and drinking. Or more rather, the fascination with it. What ever drinking entails can be great or terrible, it really depends on what side you pick. It's like a war. It's obviously stupid to do, but whether it's fun or not is up to the person.
mrmeowmeow said:
I'll probably get some shit for this - but I think you don't fully know someone until you've seen them drunk. But that's with a lot of things. You don't know someone fully until you've seen them when they're happy, sad, etc.
Yeah, but you can never fully know somebody.
mrmeowmeow said:
Luckily, I had my friends there to take care of me - so I was very grateful.
I have no problem in taking care of my friends, or nice people in general. But some people should learn to take care of themselves.
mrmeowmeow said:
I've had a lot of fucking sweet times when drinking.
I've had a lot of sweet times using the word "gay" as a synonym for "lame."
mrmeowmeow said:
But it's not like I don't know how to have fun when sober. It kind of irks me when people have an elitist attitude about their non-drinking ways. I heard some kid essentially telling another boy, "If you can't have fun sober, you don't deserve to have fun!". Lame.
I just look at people who drink and what comes out of it doesn't seem to be worth the cost. I've had several houndings of the other side of the argument where, "if you don't drink/etc then you aren't cool enough to have fun." Yeah okay. Thanks for the tarot reading darling.
mrmeowmeow said:
I don't think the bar scene is my thing.
Yeah. I can't say that I see myself in a bar. Or in a bar and liking it. Maybe an internet bar. Imagine the drunks on CS. That I might actually pay for. :D
mrmeowmeow said:
That was like writing a book.
Make sure you copyright that stuff before somebody tries to steal any of it. Plagiarism is one of the top threats in Canada.
mrmeowmeow said:
Feel free to ask me anything/attack my viewpoints/bake me cookies.
I attack your viewpoints for 100 damage. I also take interest in cookies.
I'm not as hard on drinking as I used to be, because I realized it can't be helped that people will continue to go to it. I know it's not evil or anything. As I see it, it is stupid. Stupid because it is reckless in what it does to you and makes you do. What you feel of the outcome is really the deciding factor of whether it's good or not.
Of course people who have fun with it will keep going back to it. It's how it's made. They will defend their actions as such.
Likewise those who haven't taken part will remain skeptical of it.
From looking at it, it looks overrated.
--This has been yet another senseless post By: DOOM Anomaly--
Post by badassbassplaya on May 31, 2007 17:25:33 GMT -5
alex makes alot of good points, it doesnt make you a bad person if you do go out and drink and have a good time with your friends, but it is really ridiculous when you waste all your money on drinks and only hang out with people who do drink even if you dont like people. i really dont want to sound like im bringing the hammer down on people who drink cause that would make me a hippocrit but just use it responsibly, dont use to get rid of sorrow or get lucky with people or totally shut people out of your lives
Friendship is like peeing on yourself: everyone can see it, but only you get the warm feeling that it brings. cara buchedd
Drinking......In all honesty, its one of those things I don't fully know about yet. Im scared of it, yet at the same time I welcome it, its a double edged sword for me.
I use to be absolutely against drinking, as I was against doing a green substance but well things changed for both.
I never figured I would drink because of how my family drank, basically everyone on my Dad's side were/are alcoholics, so I had seen many things that people shouldn't ever see. With saying that, it leads me to whats next on my brain.
When people get drunk, they can have different personalities, in stereotypical view, you can have; Angry, Happy, Sad, Stupid, Fun, Fighter, Loose , and many more, including just Normal basically. So with that its tough to say if getting to that stage is good or bad, all depends on the person or their mindset at that time.
As to why people drink, well I have chosen to drink at times because, if you're going somewhere where most people are going to be drinking, then its much easier to deal with them, and the humour and fun is very much so a lot easier to understand and join in with. Furthermore, Alcohol as they say is Liquid Confidence, some people would never do the things they do because they would be too shy otherwise.
Such an instance goes for me, when I drink, I do let loose a lot more and tend to enjoy myself because I am much more outgoing. But what I have also done is used how I felt to make myself better when not drinking, taking the fake confidence and building on it for real confidence.
So drinking for me has made its many benefits, and I don't regret them at all. Also, alcohol does taste fuckin nasty, I can't stand the taste of it in all truth, so the taste has never made me want to drink, its just the effects of it. Now the next thing, relating to what Alex said.
About seeing who your friends truly are, when you get drunk, and basically are beyond the stage of being able to take care of yourself, then you'd hope your friends have your back. So far, I have found those kinds of people, and also the other kinds of people. And those that stick by you at those shitty times are ones that really are friends, cause I know from experience it isn't the most fun thing to do, but its what you gotta do for friends.
Now I'm not 19 yet, but I do know that I will go to the bars and whatnot with my friends, and yep, my family. But there's no way I would go there and spend a massive amount of money on alcohol like that, there's much smarter ways, drink before you get there, have a few drinks there etc and then you can have fun while keeping a budget....but some people aren't that bright at times.
The bar scene to me, from what I believe it to be is a place to go and have some fun, while at the possibility of meeting someone from the other sex for a relationship and whatnot. And yes, one could say you're meeting a person when they're drunk, they're not actually interested in you, well, thats what calling them when sober is for, to see if there's anything there and whatnot. Furthermore, I have came to a conclusion about drunk people aswell, Alex touched on it a bit.
You learn more about that person, from what I have seen, when someone gets drunk, not fuck I can't walk drunk etc. they put their guards down, and thus some personalities come out, or some things that would otherwise be kept in secret come out. That is another double edged sword.....People have tried to get some information from me when drinking, they have yet to be successful
Now as for people ditching others that are against drinking or can't drink etc. thats just fuckin stupid, I do not look down upon anyone who doesn't drink. I still hang out with those that don't drink, and when I do, I have fun, same goes for if I'm not drinking, and others are, I still have fun. Actually at times, its a bit more fun to watch people get drunk because then you can laugh at/with them.
Now, I think this is long enough for now, and I don't even know exactly what the hell I'm saying anymore in a sense because jumping into a convo is sorta tougher than having a convo directed towards me where I can indulge more into a certain thing.
But drinking, don't look at it as a really bad thing, it has its ups and downs, I believe in moderation with it, and am extremely scared of going to far, have yet to do so, and hope I don't....
Canucks gonna get cup this year!! I guess not, ok then, next year!!!